The always out there and hilarious Joan Rivers sat down with her (bleh) daughter Melissa to speak to New York Magazine about everything from the Holidays, to Gaga, to her own personal style (more the better) which i totally agree with. Here are some bits from the interview
We are thrilled with the return of Fashion Police on E!, by the way. How were you able to do it again in a weekly format?Joan: Well, I'm not on the red carpet anymore. When you're on the red carpet, you get word from on high: "Don’t say anything bad about Angelina Jolie because she’s a friend of the network. Don’t say anything bad about Sarah Jessica Parker because she's a friend of the network." No one says anything bad [about celebrities] — they’re not going to say, "Your ass is too big, and you shouldn’t be wearing that color, and you look like a fool." You can’t say that so what’s the point of doing the red carpet? So the Fashion Police, when they came to me, they said let her do it. I don’t have to meet them on the red carpet. I don’t have to deal with Rihanna. Rihanna and I will never meet unless we both go clubbing together, and I don’t think we’ll go to the same clubs.
Melissa: My first thought was there is not enough material because I used to do fashion news once a week on E!, and I always felt like it was a stretch. But over the past couple of years there seems to be more material.
What do you think of the state of celebrity red-carpet dressing today? Do you think the "Joan Rivers effect," as the Times called it, scared celebrities into playing it too safe?Joan: That is such nonsense. What they’re starting to do now, which worries me, is they’re all trying to copy Lady Gaga. You want to say to Katy Perry, "You’re beautiful! You’ve got the body, wear a pretty dress.You don’t have to strap electrical stuff on your dress."
Melissa: They’re all so scared. I think a lot of these younger girls are getting shoved into clothes by designers and are too impressed that it’s that designer, and I think that’s where you get a lot of bad choices. Their gut might say no, but they’re too scared to say no and everyone around them is saying yes.
Speaking of Lady Gaga — thoughts?
Joan: Lady Gaga wants to look crazy — her next outfit I know is going to be surf and turf. It’s the ones that think they look great, and you go, "Are you out of your mind?" Or the ones who have become total fashion victims. I just think Prada should be shut down, and truly I think they hate Americans. I think they’re still angry at us for WWII.
Melissa: Lady Gaga — you can’t even put that in the category of fashion because those are truly costumes, but she sells them and everyone goes berserk.
Where do you shop?
Joan: I shop my closet a lot. I’ve taken a lot of jackets and added things. I work with my stylist on it. Before you cut into a vintage Yves Saint Laurent, you better fucking know what you’re doing. Every time I get together with Melissa we go to Barneys and we go to Bergdorf's. And also the ten-dollar-and-under stores in the airport, where I buy scarves and cheap jewelry that’s going to break, but you can wear it once. And in London, the only place you go is Topshop. I buy anything that sparkles. Topshop is just amazing because you run in, you come out, you look like a whore. It’s great.
Melissa: Elise Walker in Pacific Palisades. In New York, Barneys. I get stuff from Intermix. I mix stuff up — I’m just as likely to be wearing something from Old Navy or Gap with Louboutin shoes and a J.Crew jacket.
Who are your favorite designers?Joan: Valentino, Gaultier because he’s very showbiz, good ol’ Armani — I don’t pick it that way, that's just what works. Escada.
Melissa: For dressy, I love Dolce & Gabbana, I love Calvin Klein, I love Donna Karan, I love Michael Kors. I’ve got some great Stella McCartney stuff, really cute Chloé. I have a lot of Theory. I’m kind of all over the map but it’s always things that are pretty non-fussy. My favorite dresses this year were a little black dress from Prada and a little black dress from Miu Miu. I wore the dress in front of my mom and she loved it and didn’t know it was Prada.
How do L.A. and New York style compare, in your views?
Joan: I think New York women have such style, and it’s not about money, it’s just the look and the pace and the activity. And in L.A., they’re very beautiful and they all look exactly alike, which is good because if we go to war they’re all in uniform. They’ve got the same bag, the same jeans, they’re exactly alike. New York women, they look like they’re going to an art opening. They look smart.
Melissa: New York is just more formal, but the women in L.A. are just as pulled together. It’s a totally different look, it just doesn’t have as much of an edge to it. It’s less severe.
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